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David Matheny
David Marlin Rains
Ivy Elizabeth Holt Morris
Julie Ingram Gatanis
Alex Kozelle
Sam Burnham
Jim Curry
Amy Durham Mendes
Cornelia Gamble
Ken Gossett
Ray Barton
Sandra Caruso
Jessica Rogers
Ken Freshour
Terri Morgan
Tersi Bendiburg
John Lee
David Strickland
Richard Wear
Will Rhinehart
Cristie Smith
Dwain Rutledge
Bryant Steele
Hilda Atkins Moore
Gretchen Dodson
Dan Bevels
Tracy Cordle Baker
I think part of the problem with this is lumping people into one group as voters. I am a Christian. I am a woman. I am a teacher. I am white. I am an American.
Josh Brown
I'd love for you to write a column about this (or Bernie or Hillary) for AllOnGeorgia. You have a lot to say. I'd post it statewide and put it on this site, too. http://allonpolitics.allongeorgia.com/
David Marlin Rains
IMHO, Evangelicals are very well aware & disillusioned with the Repub party. Even though they have worked for & voted Repub they realize their resultant manipulation & lack of promised reward. Trump is the ultimate non-Repub. Likewise RW Evangelicals live in a fearful/victimized world. Those two emotions are really two sides of the same coin. Trump is the alpha male full of braggadocio & aggression; he will protect them from fear & victimization. So a lot of it doesn't have to do with theology.
Terrell Shaw
So you believe that the Trump voters being classified as "evangelical" are actually serious evangelical believers who have made a decision to give Trump a pass on his personal behavior and beliefs in order to have a Big Daddy to protect them from (????) terrorists, gay-marriage, religious discrimination ???? ----- Just strange. Hard to understand or accept.
David Marlin Rains
Trump will DO something about these issues! Make America Great Again! Part 1 is the disillusion with the Repub party. And don't forget smarmy Uriah Heep & Dr Not Right in the Head aren't warming a lot of EV hearts. I just posted on Pat Robertson giving Trump big ups at Liberty U.
David Marlin Rains
Rafael Cruz is part of Benny Hinn's Purifying Fire Ministry; a more sucker-fleecing, tax-dodging, unChristian, jackleg outfit you cannot find.
So at least Ted came by his grifting streak "honestly."
Josh Brown
We've got tons of Republicans who write columns for us, writers and high profile state representatives alike, and only one Democrat (Dem representative, Debbie Buckner). Need more Democratic voices. The door is open.
Terrell Shaw
I'll think about it. You might take a look at my out-of-date blog and see what I might redo for your venue.
http://aloneonalimb.blogspot.com/
Josh Brown
Awesome. Will do, sir!
Terrell Shaw
http://aloneonalimb.blogspot.com/.../why-i-am-democrat.html
Josh Brown
Terrell Shaw this is great.
Sam Burnham
Here's the deal, all my life the Republican Party has talked about smaller, more responsible government, small businesses, action in the area of immigration, entitlement reform, addressing the deficit & debt, and less overall federal intrusion in our lives.
But when it comes to action, no matter who is in charge, true conservatives get the middle finger. The only remotely Conservative candidate that has been nominated since I came of voting age was Bob Dole. Bob Freakin Dole. That's it. I'm 40 years old and all I can point to is Bob Dole. That's pitiful.
So people are fed up. Trump is nowhere near a conservative. But he has fed the "make America great again" line that people want to hear. And the electorate has been dumbed down to the point they believe soundbites. So when they hear "hope & change" or "make America great again" they don't need specifics. They just go vote.
So what we see is:
1) folks giving the GOP that middle finger back
2) folks willing to bet this soundbite is true.
3) a desperate need to dust off true conservatism and educate the electorate about what it means.
Ruth Baird Shaw
Charles Terrell "Terry " Shaw...how dare you try to bring a little common sense into the political conversation. <smile> I have been wondering the same thing???
Scott Fuller
Well said, neighbor!
Ruth Baird Shaw
Sam Burnham has explained it well.
Raymond Atkins
I can't find a living soul who will admit to backing Trump. Maybe it's something one does in secret. I do believe, however, that either Hillary or Bernie can beat him handily.
Terrell Shaw
I hope you are right Ray, but I remember cheering for a second-rate actor as an easy opponent in 1980.
Howard Smith
Yes, I have the same memories as Terrell and what is concerning me the most is the enthusiasm gap. So far, the turnout in GOP caucuses and primaries is record setting. I also have a growing concern he will pick Rubio as his VP which would make this a formidable ticket, at least as of now. I am still hoping Trump will self destruct but it does not appear it will happen within the GOP primary process. What concerns me is what "making America Great Again" means to white male voters....
Robin Holt
I met two yesterday. A couple from South Georgia. Salt of the earth folks. I was shocked to discover they support Trump. Think Kasich should be his running mate. I was so astounded I couldn't argue with them. Sad.
Terrell Shaw
Sigh. I don't doubt their salt, but I'll bet they can't diagram his sentences.
Victoria Stanz Abernathy
Raymond Atkins You haven't been to the infamous liar's table at Southern Flavor in CS. They believe in every word on Fox, and really think Trump is the savior from all progressives(communists-socialists).
Victoria Stanz Abernathy
Wayne Jones Well don't tell 'em.
Raymond Atkins
Howard Smith the fact that some of his Trumpiness has not already caused him to self-destruct is an indication of how low the bar now rests.
Neal Brackett
I see irony.... Who in their right mind thinks that Donald Trump would have ever won approval to put a Trump Casino in Greenville SC?
Weyland Billingsley
As someone who many might classify as conservative and evangelical, Bernie is looking better and better.
Sam Burnham
I'm still really thinking that Trump won't be horrible because he'll be opposed by both parties in Congress. The Democrats will hate him because he's a Republican and the Republicans will hate him because he's a...well...a Democrat.
So for four years nothing at all happens, the Republicans get their act together, produce a real Conservative candidate that beats a discredited Trump in the primary and the terrible status quo returns.
Terrell Shaw
To any Secret Service agents reading my Facebook page, I do not know Wayne Jones.
Joan Shaw Turrentine
I personally know NO ONE who supports Trump - and my friends are mostly evangelical. I doubt the veracity of the exit polls. Whether the untruths are from the voters or the reporters I don't know.
Kevin Payne
You're prob over thinking this. It's an angry electorate on both sides. Trump won virtually every possible group you can categorize. You need not look any further than the fact that he's not a Washington establishment candidate.
Joan Shaw Turrentine
But there are other non-politicians running.
Kevin Payne
They just aren't gaining as much traction.
Michelle Moriarty Smith
That is a good question. I consider myself an evangelical and I'm not voting for Trump. I do like that he wants to support vets, says he wants to make America great again, knows how to make money-so maybe he could help our country's financial situation and that he isn't dependent on anyone else for finances so maybe he'd actually do what he says, but there are so many more important issues to me than those things where I don't agree with him! Maybe those who are voting for him don't have those other issues on their minds. It is scary!
Jeff Akin
Don't look at me!!
David Matheny
This isn't the only time in the History of Man where Christians rely on the Power of State to Protect Them...but it comes with HUGE Trade-offs: https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../before-donald-trump
Terrell Shaw
I daren't speak ill of Charlemagne since he is, supposedly, one of my ancestors. Of course he had so many illegitimate children that most of humankind may be descended from him.
Sam Burnham
Do you mean "YUGE" trade-offs?
Wendy Davis
Best line from that article - think about this one..."A government that can shut down a mosque can shut down a church."
John McClellan
My dad, who was born and grew up in Alabama, used to tell me that you couldn't find anybody the day before the election who was going to vote for Big Jim Folsom or anybody the day after the election who had voted for him but he was elected governor of Alabama twice. Trump's winning primaries reminds me of that.
David Matheny
President Trump may break the World's Record for Impeachment Proceedings...
Susan Cherones
I know a couple of young people-early 20's-virgins huge family -all the girls with the long uncut hair and skirts to their tenny shoes-they posted a picture of themselvs dizzy with glee at a t.Rump rally-mystified!
Terrell Shaw
Oh. My.
David Matheny
T. Rump reminds me of a dimple-kneed 7 year old trying to run as President of a Backyard Tree House "No Girls Allowed" Club.
Wendy Davis
How about this survey...shake my head...
http://www.vox.com/.../24/11105552/trump-supporters-slavery
Katie Cauthen Francisco
My uncle is both evangelical and a Trump supporter. From what he's said, I'd go along with it being about the angry electorate. Beholden to no one, that sort of thing.
Ken Freshour
Wow. I finally agree with you about someone running for president. Will wonders never cease!
John Carlin
I don't think that everyone who votes for Trump supports him. It's more that they hate the other candidates. If forced to choose between Rubio, Trump or Cruz I'd choose Trump. I think he'd do a better job than the other two. At least some of what he says is true, I haven't heard Cruz say one thing I agree with.
Terrell Shaw
I understand that, John. Trump's extreme narcissism scares me. Cruz is so extreme he also scares me. Rubio is a crass politician who says things he does not believe (in my opinion) I suspect he would be less extreme as president than the cartoon he is portraying for the Tea Party folks who people the GOP primaries.
But I'll leave the Republican nomination to the Republicans.
Lydia Simpson
I also suspect there may be a larger-than-usual oppositional turnout - by that I mean people who turn out to vote in the opposition's primary to try to win the nomination for the least viable candidate. And I'm not just being cynical - I know a lot of folks who do this.
Katie Cauthen Francisco
Lydia Simpson possibly. I also know a few people who will more than likely vote for the Democratic candidate who have voted in the Republican primary for Rubio because they think he is the only possibility to defeat Trump and that scares them. Don't blame them one bit.
Laurie Craw
In the "There oughta be a law against it" category I would put publication of ALL polls. The candidates may want to know how every possible subdivision of the population voted or might vote, but they should keep the results to themselves. This kind of polling is one source of divisiveness our democracy we can do without. It also promotes unthinking voting by peer pressure, e.g "It says here evangelicals (Hispanics, women, cowboys, turnip pickers) voted for Trump. I'm an evangelical so I guess I should vote for Trump."
James Grant
Has anyone seen Trump in church? Is he a member of any organized religious group?
Sam Burnham
Yes, he said he really likes the "juice and the little cracker thingy". I'd say he's pretty devout.
David Matheny
He has past membership in the Marble Collegiate Church, a Presbyterian Church in NY made famous by Power of Positive Thinking minister Norman Vincent Peale.
Sam Burnham
I took this as an honest question and offered my honest answer.
Now I'd like to offer a question of my own. I ask honestly, not to provoke or incite an argument but as a real attempt to understand.
In the same spirit in which we are perplexed about evangelical support for Trump, I'm wondering how evangelical Christians find themselves supporting candidates that believe in abortion, gay marriage, and the removal of any hint of the overt religious undertones in our founding as a nation. Will you please explain?
Laurie Craw
The short answer is, there are many kinds of Christians just as there are many kinds of Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus etc. Wars have been fought, Christian against Christian, because of their differences. Hopefully, never here. I disagree that candidates or those who vote for them "believe in" abortion and gay marriage. I "believe in" the human rights of women to own and control their bodies and make their own moral and religious decisions regarding birth control, abortion and every other bodily function and their own medical care. I "believe" that no government has the right to tell people whom they can love, live with, have private sexual relations with, form a family with, share finances and contractual obligations with, and make an exclusive public commitment to, nor should it ever be able to tell any church, denomination or clergyperson that they cannot consecrate such commitments in their faith. Both of these cases involve government intrusion into personal lives of the worst kind. Where my religion comes in is how I live MY life and what choices I make, in freedom. I and I alone am responsible to God for my choices. Hope this helps your understanding.
Sam Burnham
I see what you are saying. The reason I ask this is to try to establish a set of reasoning. I think that an honest look at questions will help us understand the perspective of another even though we still disagree.
I think you could adjust a few words in your explanation and come up with an explanation for how someone who is a Christian could support Trump, even if we disagree with their reasoning.
Laurie Craw
Sam Burnham Probably so. Keeping in mind that none of us supports every statement or proposal a candidate makes. We have to prioritize issues that are most important to us and also which of their positions, statements or ethical lapses are "deal-breakers."
Sam Burnham
Yes, and that is why I choose to support candidates on a case-by-case basis and never just support a party. A deal breaker on a national platform is just something I can't get behind.
David Matheny
"Evangelical" means "News which is Good." I think if one claims to be a Christian, one is a Bearer of Good News. "Evangelical Christian,' as the Media defines it, means "Conservative Christian." Jimmy Carter was considered the first "Evangelical," and won the '76 Election with their help, but lost the "Evangelical" (media-term) over the issue of Abortion.
Michael J. Sarver
Terrell It's really quite simple...People who love Trump are as dumbfounded as you are.
Terrell Shaw
Assuming your comment is serious, do you mean that they are dumbfounded about their own support of Trump?
Michael J. Sarver
Terrell Shaw ... I'm just as serious as you are...of course I can't be certain, but I suspect they're dumbfounded by anyone supporting Hillary. And I'm anti-Hillary or Bernie or Obama or any other candidate who believes as they do. And no...I'm not a Trump supporter.
Terrell Shaw
Ok. I think I can understand my sister who supports Cruz, and my sister who supports Carson, and my friends who support Sanders, etc. I cannot understand support of Trump by intelligent folks.You understand that I believe in progressive politics and that that makes my support for Hillary Clinton logical from my point of view (even for those who think my point of view irrational). I understand that you believe in very conservative politics and might therefore support Cruz or Rubio or Carson or Kasich, Support for one of those candidates would be rational from a coherent (if mistaken ) political philosophy.
But Trump? What does Trump believe in? What are his qualifications? What are his accomplishments? I don't understand a rationale from any political viewpoint, except perhaps anarchy, to support Trump.
Michael J. Sarver
Terrell Shaw ...correct...anarchy. People supporting Trump are angry. And I agree you are irrational along with everyone you support. Actually I don't support any leading candidates. I liked Carly and I like Ben Carson.
Laurie Craw
Sometimes, when you're hungry for an apple and those suckers just won't drop, you shake the apple tree.
Beckie Gurley
The reason Trump keeps winning is there are too many republicans to choose from. The votes are getting spread out among the other candidates... The republicans need to get their act together and put one person up against Trump. We have way to many choices right now.
Paul Culotta
I agree with you Becky. The field is winnowing and essentially down to Trump, Rubio, and the Cruz. Enlisting Christie's endorsement helps Trump with some people, but I look on it as the #2 bully endorsing the #1 bully. Oh, and although he disavows it, Trump has been endorsed by David Duke.
Beckie Gurley
Paul Culotta I couldn't agree more. Christie is just a chunky Trump.
Laurie Craw
The media don't have a very good way to distinguish among Christians when it comes to political views, and I sympathize. I've never been comfortable with terms like "evangelical" or "born-again" or "mainline" or verbally segregating the "black church" from what? the "white church"? I'm pretty clear on "fundamentalist" and "literalist." And even though Catholic teaching is famously against abortion, birth control, divorce, and women priests, there are plenty of "good Catholics" who not only practice BC and get divorces and are proud feminists and vote for liberal politicians. If I were a reporter or editor covering politics and religion, I'd be searching for the right words and coming up short.
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