Some gun enthusiasts astound me. I saw today where one tried to compare the discrimination against Rosa Parks to discrimination against assault weapons. Now, in celebration of MLK Day I s'pose, Limbaugh is bewailing King's non-violence.
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Charlie Hehn
Bottom line Terrell is guns don't kill people, people kill people. Too bad it's all political now. Always has been and always will be no matter who is in office.
Charlie Hehn
Or who the media heads of the day are.
Mary Caldwell
Yeah, Charlie, guns don't kill people...people with guns kill people...I hate to burst your bubble, but come on, the statistics bear out regardless of the media or politics...http://aattp.org/prophet-bill-hicks-no-connection.../
Tersi Bendiburg
Rush is an utter fool. At least his radio persona is!
Jackie D. Huether
But if you take guns away from everyday people, then again the only ones that will have them are the police, military, and criminals. Just like now if a criminal(or soon to be one) wants something they will get it, If guns are outlawed a criminal will still have one. They don't care if they go to jail, if they accomplish what they set out to do. Laws have never stopped crime if there was sufficient demand for what was outlawed. There are way to many laws right now, that are being passed with out the peoples knowledge till after the fact.
Terrell Shaw
Jackie, absolutely no one I know is proposing to "take guns away from everyday people". That is the old NRA straw man. The Second Amendment guarantees "everyday people" the right to have guns for self-protection. That does not mean society has to be at the mercy of people with any gun they wish. Even Scalia believes in limits to the Second Amendment. Even Reagan supported bans on assault weapons. If the far right insists on pretending our founding fathers wanted "mob rule" they don't know their history and eventually the carnage is going to be so great that the people will amend the Constitution to limit it and your straw man might become real. If that ever happens it will be the fault of an unreasonable/uncompromising right.
Ruthy Countryman
John Lewis has it right.
Terrell Shaw
BTW Charlie & Jackie, even though I disagree with you both, I want you to know that I appreciate having Facebook friends who are willing to agreeably disagree.
Jackie D. Huether
Yes the second amendment does , but give the government an inch they will take a mile. Just like people who are not in the government, but when their passing laws that slowly work around the constitution what's to stop them. Plus states like California that give up their rights way to easy. Now as far as assault rifles no, I really see no need for them in everyday use. I just see things are being done at the wrong time for the wrong reasons.
Terrell Shaw
Jackie, don't forget that the Constitution establishes with its first three words that "We the People" ARE the government.
Jackie D. Huether
Yeah we'll tell King Obama that. Lol
Terrell Shaw
We told the President that in November by re-electing him with a 4 million vote margin. We the People support his proposals, undeniably.
Jackie D. Huether
But there is the keyword u say proposals, but he is bypassing the people and passing new laws.
Terrell Shaw
Jackie, that is just untrue. Look carefully at the President's executive actions regarding gun safety. They are not really executive orders, even though all Presidents do use their Constitutional powers to make executive orders. FDR & Reagan are the record-holders at doing that. These proposals are easily within the President's Constitutional powers and duties.
Here are those 23 executive actions. As you will see, they are NOT wild and crazy and certainly do not bypass the people. They are about the President doing the job we elected him to do.
Closing background check loopholes
1. Require federal agencies to make relevant data available to the federal background check system
2. Address unnecessary legal barriers that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system
3. Improve incentives for states to share information with the background check system
4. Direct the Attorney General to review categories of individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people are not slipping through the cracks
5. Propose rulemaking to give law enforcement the ability to run a full background check on an individual before returning a seized gun
6. Publish a letter from ATF to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers
Common sense steps to reduce gun violence
7. Launch a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign
8. Review safety standards for gun locks and gun safes (Consumer Product Safety Commission)
9. Require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations
10. Release a DOJ (Department of Justice) report analyzing information on lost and stolen guns and make it widely available to law enforcement
11. Nominate an ATF director
12. Provide law enforcement, first responders, and school officials with proper training for active shooter situations
13. Maximize enforcement efforts to prevent gun violence and prosecute gun crime
14. Issue a Presidential Memorandum directing the Centers for Disease Control to research the causes and prevention of gun violence
15. Direct the Attorney General to issue a report on the availability and most effective use of new gun safety technologies and challenge the private sector to develop innovative technologies
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors asking their patients about guns in their homes
17. Release a letter to health care providers clarifying that no federal law prohibits them from reporting threats of violence to law enforcement authorities
Making schools safer
18. Provide incentives for schools to hire school resource officers
19. Develop model emergency response plans for schools, houses of worship, and institutions of higher education
Increasing access to mental health services
20. Release a letter to state health officials clarifying the scope of mental health services that Medicaid plans must cover
21. Finalize regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within ACA exchanges
22. Commit to finalizing mental health parity regulations
23. Launch a national dialogue led by Secretaries Sebelius and Duncan on mental health
Howard Smith
Rush is just an idiot...If Lewis had had a gun he would have bee shot in the head, not beaten in the head.
Jackie D. Huether
True and they seem sensible enough except I would have never ever voted 16 in. But it's just not about gun laws to me, it's laws that are effecting my whole life.
George Barton
What I don't understand is why anyone pays any attention to Rush. He's nothing but an overweight stupid dope addict.
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